tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post5675743614638827389..comments2023-05-10T03:36:53.372-04:00Comments on Den o'sin: GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT? R.I.P. HOLY WARBLESHollyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17822820465535539404noreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-88183046012988118592012-04-26T05:54:35.719-04:002012-04-26T05:54:35.719-04:00MIXTAPES DOWNLOAD HERE:
http://melomanovariopinto...MIXTAPES DOWNLOAD HERE:<br /><br />http://melomanovariopinto.wordpress.com/2012/04/18/mi-pequeno-homenaje-a-lo-que-fue-un-gran-blog-holy-warbles/<br /><br />RIP the owl...GuillermoBlogeadohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10316313321817300351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-36707969058068293322012-04-01T15:12:43.662-04:002012-04-01T15:12:43.662-04:00did y'all see the damia album i posted that th...did y'all see the damia album i posted that the owl so graciously dropped in my lap? http://spookcityusa.blogspot.com/2012/03/look-what-owl-dragged-in.htmlburntoutsavannahshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10405077552486345436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-16838460833417195162012-03-05T14:49:20.376-05:002012-03-05T14:49:20.376-05:00Bleh! I can't stand the arbitrary defense of ...Bleh! I can't stand the arbitrary defense of downloading as long as the material is out of print / not "available". <br /><br />You know what's also not available? truckloads of $$ to buy all the interesting and enriching rereleases that are coming out. SOME money is certainly available, and I will use that money to buy SOME of said releases. But gimme a break here!<br /><br />I challenge all the 'I only download out of print records' blowhards to consult an attorney and vet the legality of those actions!<br /><br />LONG LIVE ENTROPY!!!!!!<br /><br />thanks Holly,brown beardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04186647606501768620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-39909117606317821402012-02-28T11:49:48.285-05:002012-02-28T11:49:48.285-05:00just a FYI - per ur request.... the flip.
http://...just a FYI - per ur request.... the flip.<br /><br />http://devildick.blogspot.com/2012/02/dynamic-v-adios-amigo.htmlDevil Dickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15962298209910015403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-42472624022759515132012-02-26T11:59:20.824-05:002012-02-26T11:59:20.824-05:00Reply to Anonymous in regards to this statement in...Reply to Anonymous in regards to this statement in your reply:<br /><br />"The "bike" / l e g a l material people have uploaded by way of Megaupload must now simply be stored elsewhere, since Megaupload has been instrumental in crimes against copyrighted material and is under prosecution. No material as such has been l o s t, as you appear to claim."<br /><br />What if you had stored your "bike/legal material" on Megaupload, then got hit by a virus and everything on your computer was lost? Or you simply had deleted the material yourself to free up space on your hard drive, and were using Megaupload to store your files? How can your material "now simply be stored elsewhere", if the only place you had it stored is no longer accessible?<br /><br />The issue I'm debating is not one of whether Megaupload was engaged in illegal activity or not, or knowingly or not; the issue is that the entire library of material stored on Megaupload is no longer available. If this was done to stop proven illegal activity, then it should have been conducted in a way that shuts down only the illegal activity; the legal activity should not have been shot down for simply being an innocent bystander.Christinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08080100467430383802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-2016491041364054202012-02-25T20:27:23.415-05:002012-02-25T20:27:23.415-05:00Published the above just so everyone here can see ...Published the above just so everyone here can see the depth of Mr. Hammer's pathology. And that will be the last you'll hear from him in this forum. You may catch up with him at may other music blogs, where one can only assume he's hanging out to meet women as he's certainly not downloading music.<br /><br />Sorry Hammer, I'm taken!Hollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17822820465535539404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-74398760517854901052012-02-25T20:12:38.959-05:002012-02-25T20:12:38.959-05:00*Slurp*
Hmm, interesting how this has swollen int...*Slurp*<br /><br />Hmm, interesting how this has swollen into a fight of chopping logic mania. Hmm, indildo.<br /><br />Holly said...<br />""Holly" will no longer publish "Bob's" comments."<br /><br />We say:<br />Who cares? You said this before about one of my comments and continued posting them hereabout. And your indemnification was simply put as "I don't like Hammer's language", placing your I's between two quoting commas. The hell Holly, babe-ums? What about your language? Fuck off? Can you say this on a public comment-venue or outlet without coming out as the MADD person here, hunnie dew? Relax, babe. 'Realax' yer chaffing tits, and ease yer knickers, too.<br /><br />Anon.: Man, you rawk big fawkin' sawks (excuse my non-language). <br /><br />In this commentrail of apparent idiocy there are to be found some gems. Much as Holy-Warbles' now-defunct blogsite that actually did carry some good plunders, and rare wonders. The fact that some on the other side of the pool take his 'work' as educational makes it all laughable. Arguably, he tried to teach the world some music (some here called it World music, of which the now-hip word is ethnic, mind ya). Meanwhile, he himself was a pupil trying to gather the ends-and-odds of all that's musically-correct. Of course, if there was such a thing as so, and beside the legal interpolations. He did what he could, and he lost the game. Full-fucking-stop.<br /><br />Remember: music is a commercially-available product that you can buy, and ONLY buy with money. There is no such thing as a free lunch, babe boo bums. 'Member that shyat. 'Kays?<br /><br />Kindly,<br /><br />H.H.Hammerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09462766826817071023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-6975655299381783432012-02-25T12:25:10.852-05:002012-02-25T12:25:10.852-05:00After everyone's finished the crossword & ...After everyone's finished the crossword & is ready for their 2nd cup of coffee or tea, I'd urge y'all to read Marie's (Rhythm & Tunes) thoughtful observations above. <br /><br />Off original topic, yes, but worthy of own thread.Hollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17822820465535539404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-36341828140969013552012-02-25T11:56:20.801-05:002012-02-25T11:56:20.801-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-23663638911661805602012-02-25T04:06:44.871-05:002012-02-25T04:06:44.871-05:00"GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT" , sorry H..."GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT" , sorry Holly just GUILTY , its pretty clear to all, irrelevant of any personal insults, that Holy Warbles was closed down because he posted lots of in print easily availible albums, selfish downloaders can gripe about it but bloggers like him give the whole blogging communiity a bad name and are the root cause of any problems any of us may encounter in the future, good riddance to his ilkRezahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12130049917964020986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-21515648355944394622012-02-25T00:16:07.432-05:002012-02-25T00:16:07.432-05:00Bob -
1 - You totally evaded discussing white&am...Bob - <br /><br />1 - You totally evaded discussing white&uptight's point about people like, oh say, Tav Falco who has lost access to his own intellectual & other property that he legally stored on MegaUpload.<br /><br />2 - Why you assume I don't support artists & labels is frankly mystifying. You're right - you don't know me.<br /><br />3 - I am also mightily perplexed as to why you're commenting on my blog if you "want nothing to do with me" - I don't recollect you visting here earlier to enjoy any of the few recordings I've chosen to share. Stalk much?<br /><br />4 - Do go single-handily save all the labels you like from internet plundering, oh valiant Bob [clap clap]. Meanwhile your churlish manners annoy me so please keep me OUT of the loop. Other folks can give you all the validation you need.<br /><br />5 - "legal accountability" - for what, exactly????? ??? <br /><br />Sigh.<br /><br />"Holly" is full of "non-admiration" for "Bob" so "Holly" will no longer publish "Bob's" comments. The rest of y'all, carry on!<br /><br />Holly :-)Hollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17822820465535539404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-29983937448194886062012-02-24T23:38:15.116-05:002012-02-24T23:38:15.116-05:00"Holly",
You could also have chosen a d..."Holly",<br /><br />You could also have chosen a different online signature. It does not trace back to a real-life identity. But I will humour you. You can call me "Bob".<br /><br />Now "Bob" knows what "Holly" knows and the rest of the music-blogging community know as well: Megaupload is guilty. Period. "Bob" also knows that Holy Warbles must have become popular for sharing for free a fair few new releases on labels such as Finders Keepers, Sublime Frequencies, and other like-minded crate-digging labels specialising in global groove, records people should ideally have had to buy, if they wanted to listen to them. In fact, "Bob" wouldn't have been surprised to find many labels he likes represented in the long list of records illegally shared at Holy Warbles.<br /><br />However, "Bob" spends his time looking for records as in physical artifacts and therefore prefers music blogs that give insight into music that he can find on vinyl, mostly second-hand. "Bob" also supports the labels mentioned above. He especially likes to buy records from the many small and fabulous labels that can be found in all corners of Europe. Sometimes these labels are run by one single person, be it a dj, a musician, or simply a music enthusiast. For sure, none of these labels are corporate enterprises with a big turnover. So "Bob" doesn't think there is value in sharing for free their work when they, themselves, haven't decided to do so. He also fears the impact this illegal sharing has on the labels he likes.<br /><br />To make it absolutely clear, nothing al or øwl quaida is worthy of any defense! "Bob" is sure "Holly" gets the point.<br /><br />Lastly, "Bob" would like "Holly" to come out as "Holly" in real life. He would indeed like any admirer of Holy Warbles and the like to conduct her "admiration" in full public. In fact "Bob" would like the hordes of illegal downloaders and defenders of Megaupload to all step forward, regardless of musical preference, so a stop can be put to online looting of copyrighted material.<br /><br />But will they? No, they will not. Why? Because they know it is illegal. Behind handles and covert identities they will, however, continue their plundering, simply because online anonymity enables them to do so.<br /><br />To round off, any blogger's "Holly"wood is a perfect realm for legal escapism, befitting every pun the sentence entails. Nobody is simply "Holly", from the point of view of being legally accountable, unless she's a person one knows from real life. This should be pointed out, as legal accountability is the clear objective for this poster's communication with "Holly" on her blog. Beyond that he wants nothing to do with her. Following this, "Holly"'s response above is irrelevant.<br /><br />Sincerely, "B o b"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-12884523127347283512012-02-24T17:40:37.970-05:002012-02-24T17:40:37.970-05:00Whiteanduptight,
If a storage facility in full aw...Whiteanduptight,<br /><br />If a storage facility in full awareness does as you say, then it is obviously guilty of facilitating crime. Further, Megaupload knew what everyone using up- and download services online know: Megaupload hosted illegal sharing of music and films. Now, following your ill-advised analogy, it isn't true that you can no longer "get to your bike", as you put it. Rather, it simply cannot any longer be kept at the "storage facility" of initial choice. The "bike" / l e g a l material people have uploaded by way of Megaupload must now simply be stored elsewhere, since Megaupload has been instrumental in crimes against copyrighted material and is under prosecution. No material as such has been l o s t, as you appear to claim.<br /><br />Claiming it was wrong to shut down Megaupload on the ground that their service was used marginally for legal sharing as well, would be to argue against legal action if a guilty part has otherwise operated in accordance with the law. Such a principle would render hollow any legal accountability of breach of copyrights.<br /><br />Really, the point above is self evident. Now the reason I'm so annoyed by this defense of Megaupload and blogs such as Holy Warbles is the fact that record labels have taken a big dent as a result of illegal sharing. Take a look around and see how independent labels have reduced their activity - or called it a day - over the last five years or so. There's even talk of corporate record companies giving up the cd altogether.<br /><br />Without a shred of doubt, online piracy is a cultural evil. It's that simple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-62901345364480760002012-02-24T15:45:19.606-05:002012-02-24T15:45:19.606-05:00To Anonymous (posted February 24, 2012 1:58 PM):
...To Anonymous (posted February 24, 2012 1:58 PM):<br /><br />Your argument using the comparison of not shutting down Megaupload with not prosecuting a person who commits robbery "on the ground that all her activities will not be in breach with the law", does not follow logic as you claim.<br /><br />Imagine that you have a bike you legally own stored in a rented storage unit at a storage facility. Now imagine that somebody else renting the storage unit next to yours has a 100 pound bag of cocaine stored in their unit. Now imagine that the whole storage facility has been shut down due to the illegal activity of the person renting the unit next to yours, and you can't get to your bike, which is legally yours.<br /><br />Megaupload is not one person, as you have compared it to in your example of one person committing robbery, so your logic does not follow and can't be applied "to all legal matters" as you claim.Christinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08080100467430383802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-60931932685732904352012-02-24T14:35:52.286-05:002012-02-24T14:35:52.286-05:00Anon -
You see what *I* choose to post. You have ...Anon - <br />You see what *I* choose to post. You have no idea what I do with downloads from other sites,so fuck off.<br /><br />And I proudly sign all of my posts. Everywhere.Hollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17822820465535539404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-34723692471190676572012-02-24T13:58:05.843-05:002012-02-24T13:58:05.843-05:00"Guilty until proven innocent"? I challe..."Guilty until proven innocent"? I challenge the people here who defend Holy Warbles and Megaupload to do so in public. Your argument is very simple: Megaupload should not have been shut down, because it was also used for legal sharing. Let's apply this logic to all legal matters. If somebody robs you, let's n o t arrest and prosecute that person on the ground that all her activities will not be in breach with the law (as obviously they can't be). In all simplicity, like or dislike Megaupload, that's the principle you're defending. So please, take your stand and its implications and make them public. Further, what was so great about Holy Warbles? Admittedly, I don't spend much time visiting music blogs, but I know this much: just about every new release there (they were numerous, too) were records that are widely available in stores such as Juno and Dusty Groove and a host of other smaller online shops. So what exactly was on offer on this site that was so unique and expertly researched? Don't tell me it was the random folk jam from the Arab world, Scandinavia, France, and whatnot! Fans of records like that are such a marginal group they would never cause the fuss currently made on select blogs. That's not the reason behind Holy Warbles' high standing. Anyway, as I said: take your laments public and bemoan the fact that our legal system requires we pay for commercial products, from small specialised enterprises and big corporate ones alike. Also, to Holly, why ask for permission to post other bloggers' posts since permission to take anything that isn't yours in the first place clearly isn't an obstacle in your realm of reality? You have made it clear that your ethical sense is none regarding intellectual ownership. The least you can do is stay true to your destructive cause.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-30526000893294275912012-02-24T09:28:44.958-05:002012-02-24T09:28:44.958-05:00jb, thank you, thank you, thank you for keeping us...jb, thank you, thank you, thank you for keeping us up-to-date!<br /><br />i am a VERY HAPPY CAMPER NOW!! :)<br /><br />whistle, whistle, clap, clap, clap!!<br /><br />now what about our dear owl?? anybody heard anything??<br /><br />thanks again, jb! and of course,BIG KUDOS to jillem!Christinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08080100467430383802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-90101826235727510152012-02-24T05:06:15.822-05:002012-02-24T05:06:15.822-05:00Think Jillem is up and at 'em once again:
htt...Think Jillem is up and at 'em once again:<br /><br />http://soundsfrombygonedays.blogspot.com/<br /><br />What a man!jbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08686677572296907111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-44514866892663522292012-02-22T17:06:39.050-05:002012-02-22T17:06:39.050-05:00And another well-said, versed-out, truth-holding A...And another well-said, versed-out, truth-holding Anon comment goes through. <br />Still, the fight should go on? Babes, there's no fight unless you're bored shitless, and happens to be average between the ears.<br />If some bunch of goons want to hold an anti-capitalist struggle fought for no-one, and against a mega-corp like Megaupload and its affiliates (i.e. Multiupload; which kisses the shit-can as well as that monolithic nerdvana), they should simmer the fuck down as the net bears no reality whatsoever save for those who lack real-life imagination.<br />Worry on me, lovers and loverettes but... The days of normalcy and mediocrity are still ripe around erm, the 'hood? Stay sane, or...<br />You lose again.<br /><br />Thanks Anon. Your wisdom is much preeshed 'ere.<br /><br />-_-_7<br /><br />H.H.Hammerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09462766826817071023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-37893957443093001312012-02-21T21:05:52.866-05:002012-02-21T21:05:52.866-05:00Okay! I checked out the Japanese music blog mentio...Okay! I checked out the Japanese music blog mentioned in this post and did a brief search there. Came up with a bunch of records still available for purchase. Second, Holy Warbles offered plenty of records just recently released. Logically, if those music blogs were about making music available that is currently unknown and/or out of print, they'd sure look a lot different than they in actual fact did. Your crocodile tears won't get these bloggers and alike any sympathy. Further, don't bullshit a bullshitter: Megaupload was never about legal uploading and sharing! Why it would take this long for someone with authority to react and shut them down really beggars belief. That's the real worry here, not the ones you present as such. Finally, music blogging that brings attention to out of print records carries value. I aqree. But why tap labels and artists by way of sharing for free records that are commercially available in the process? Cheers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-12222095299056497472012-02-21T19:37:29.769-05:002012-02-21T19:37:29.769-05:00yes, you are definitely correct on that one! :)
i...yes, you are definitely correct on that one! :)<br /><br />if you do happen to hear anything around da 'hood regarding our indefatigable jillem, please, please let us know!<br />:)<br /><br />many thanks!Christinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08080100467430383802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-63598111701784423742012-02-20T17:04:21.370-05:002012-02-20T17:04:21.370-05:00@ whiteanduptight,
You might check with Ryp &...@ whiteanduptight,<br /><br />You might check with Ryp & Gyro1966 over at TwilightZone. I think they were in regular contact with Jillem. <br /><br />I, too, miss checking out his blog every day. DaveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-1890463746179159212012-02-20T15:01:38.617-05:002012-02-20T15:01:38.617-05:00I have not seen or heard Jillem around our virtual...I have not seen or heard Jillem around our virtual 'hood. But Jillem DEFINES indefatigable! :-)Hollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17822820465535539404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-48361013049119949272012-02-20T09:55:46.936-05:002012-02-20T09:55:46.936-05:00greetings holly & everyone!
has anybody happe...greetings holly & everyone!<br /><br />has anybody happened to hear anything from jillem since his latest blog went down??<br />:(Christinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08080100467430383802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4563334874754499951.post-70258956060276725132012-02-17T16:23:44.611-05:002012-02-17T16:23:44.611-05:00Holly, Destroit here. Hotel suggestions are welcom...Holly, Destroit here. Hotel suggestions are welcome!Destroithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07475029170893387493noreply@blogger.com